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		<title>Comment on PAWS by Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 05:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is what it is&quot; is just New Age claptrap, until we learn acceptance.  How many folks have you heard say that, and then immediately rush on, trying to change things that they lack the ability to change.  Or keep things from changing -- same thing.

Reminds me of a friend I knew back in my folksinging days.  He&#039;d sit tuning his 12-string, and mutter into the mike, &quot;I&#039;m gonna get this damn thing tuned and have it welded.&quot;  That&#039;s us addicts, through and through.  The one thing that&#039;s constant is change.  When we resist change, we create unhappiness, and that leads in directions we can&#039;t afford to go.  Charlie had no intention of changing, he just wasn&#039;t going to use.  It doesn&#039;t work that way.  

And that IS how it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is what it is&#8221; is just New Age claptrap, until we learn acceptance.  How many folks have you heard say that, and then immediately rush on, trying to change things that they lack the ability to change.  Or keep things from changing &#8212; same thing.</p>
<p>Reminds me of a friend I knew back in my folksinging days.  He&#8217;d sit tuning his 12-string, and mutter into the mike, &#8220;I&#8217;m gonna get this damn thing tuned and have it welded.&#8221;  That&#8217;s us addicts, through and through.  The one thing that&#8217;s constant is change.  When we resist change, we create unhappiness, and that leads in directions we can&#8217;t afford to go.  Charlie had no intention of changing, he just wasn&#8217;t going to use.  It doesn&#8217;t work that way.  </p>
<p>And that IS how it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 05:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Larry,

When an addict takes drugs, it&#039;s abuse.  Doctor&#039;s prescriptions mean nothing.  Half the addicts in the country -- probably a lot more than half -- have prescriptions.  If you hadn&#039;t wanted to take them, you would have refused the prescription.  Be honest with yourself.  You chose to use drugs.  Now you can choose not to.  But don&#039;t make excuses.  I&#039;m sorry you felt the need to do some more research, and even sorrier that you&#039;re going to have to go through all the misery again -- but that&#039;s what addiction is: a disease of relapse.  We don&#039;t always pick up, but we do relapse.  Relapse comes before we start the drugs, otherwise we wouldn&#039;t take them, would we?  I hope you make it for good this time.

Do yourself a favor.  If you&#039;re really serious about this, dump the &quot;relief in a bottle in the next room&quot; down the toilet.  It will relieve you of the constant torment of knowing they&#039;re there.  Hanging onto them is what we call a &quot;reservation.&quot;  (I&#039;m going to do this, but just in case....)  

Stay in touch.  Rant, scream and rave if you like.  It&#039;s OK for the next four days.  I strongly suggest you get to some meetings -- but you knew I was going to say that, didn&#039;t you?

In any case, keep on keepin&#039; on.  It&#039;s about all you can do for now.

Bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Larry,</p>
<p>When an addict takes drugs, it&#8217;s abuse.  Doctor&#8217;s prescriptions mean nothing.  Half the addicts in the country &#8212; probably a lot more than half &#8212; have prescriptions.  If you hadn&#8217;t wanted to take them, you would have refused the prescription.  Be honest with yourself.  You chose to use drugs.  Now you can choose not to.  But don&#8217;t make excuses.  I&#8217;m sorry you felt the need to do some more research, and even sorrier that you&#8217;re going to have to go through all the misery again &#8212; but that&#8217;s what addiction is: a disease of relapse.  We don&#8217;t always pick up, but we do relapse.  Relapse comes before we start the drugs, otherwise we wouldn&#8217;t take them, would we?  I hope you make it for good this time.</p>
<p>Do yourself a favor.  If you&#8217;re really serious about this, dump the &#8220;relief in a bottle in the next room&#8221; down the toilet.  It will relieve you of the constant torment of knowing they&#8217;re there.  Hanging onto them is what we call a &#8220;reservation.&#8221;  (I&#8217;m going to do this, but just in case&#8230;.)  </p>
<p>Stay in touch.  Rant, scream and rave if you like.  It&#8217;s OK for the next four days.  I strongly suggest you get to some meetings &#8212; but you knew I was going to say that, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>In any case, keep on keepin&#8217; on.  It&#8217;s about all you can do for now.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by bird in hand</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bird in hand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 02:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well its been almost a year sense i last posted on your forum and im back for round 2 of withdrawell.
 i would have never started back to taking the lortab if winter hadn&#039;t never came calling and the aches and pains got worse sense i couldn&#039;t get outside daily and exercise. i didnt abuse them i took them like the doctor prescribed. here lately i have gotten the feeling that the pills are holding me back on doing my summer yard work. today is day 1 of getting clean AGAIN im tired, hot 1 minute cold the next , not near as bad as last year this go-round i weaned myself down to 2 a day before going cold turkey.. eating is not much of a option today even though i know i need 2 to keep my energy up. my appetite is gone i figure for at least another 2 days. it sux ..the mood swings will possibly set in tomorrow like a run away roller coaster along with the constant runs to the bathroom every 5 minutes. .i hate to say this buy im glad i have went through this before but wish i didnt  get back on the pills to get a refresher course on how miserable withdrawell was and is going to be for the next few days when i have reliefe in a bottle in the next room. will post updates on my stages of withdrawell for others to read in preparation  to what the body and mind goes through during recovery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well its been almost a year sense i last posted on your forum and im back for round 2 of withdrawell.<br />
 i would have never started back to taking the lortab if winter hadn&#8217;t never came calling and the aches and pains got worse sense i couldn&#8217;t get outside daily and exercise. i didnt abuse them i took them like the doctor prescribed. here lately i have gotten the feeling that the pills are holding me back on doing my summer yard work. today is day 1 of getting clean AGAIN im tired, hot 1 minute cold the next , not near as bad as last year this go-round i weaned myself down to 2 a day before going cold turkey.. eating is not much of a option today even though i know i need 2 to keep my energy up. my appetite is gone i figure for at least another 2 days. it sux ..the mood swings will possibly set in tomorrow like a run away roller coaster along with the constant runs to the bathroom every 5 minutes. .i hate to say this buy im glad i have went through this before but wish i didnt  get back on the pills to get a refresher course on how miserable withdrawell was and is going to be for the next few days when i have reliefe in a bottle in the next room. will post updates on my stages of withdrawell for others to read in preparation  to what the body and mind goes through during recovery.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wesley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 00:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Bill. I&#039;ll post again next month to let you know how I am feeling. Your last part reminded me of Charlie Sheen. It is what it is. I will never touch anything again. Wise mans last words!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuHqt24q0Bk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill. I&#8217;ll post again next month to let you know how I am feeling. Your last part reminded me of Charlie Sheen. It is what it is. I will never touch anything again. Wise mans last words!<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://digital-dharma.net/post-acute-withdrawal-syndrome-why-we-dont-get-better-immediately/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/zuHqt24q0Bk/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like you&#039;re doing about all you can.

PAWS can and often does last for months after the last drug has left the system.  You are in PAWS the entire time; you&#039;re just asymptomatic for varying periods.  Stress is the big trigger, but sometimes the symptoms just come on.  Your brain chemistry is getting all mixed up as various portions of your brain improve.  They&#039;re not all in sequence, and that throws your neurotransmitters off and makes you feel strange.

No, you do not get PAWS while you&#039;re using.  Those are the effects of the drugs and of acute withdrawal.  PAWS stands for &lt;em&gt;post-acute&lt;/em&gt; withdrawal syndrome.  It comes after acute withdrawal, which is the period during and just after the drugs leave your system.  PAWS symptoms are usually more or less the reverse of how the drug made you feel.  Nervousness, anxiety and confusion are the norm for people who used opiates and tranquilizers.  It will go away on its own.  You have no control over it, except for taking care of yourself physically and emotionally.  Worrying about it is like trying to think a broken leg well.  It just ain&#039;t gonna happen, but if you don&#039;t take care of yourself, you can certainly slow the healing of the leg -- and the brain.

Yes.  You&#039;re over-analyzing the heck out of it.  Just be in the moment.  It is what it is.

Bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you&#8217;re doing about all you can.</p>
<p>PAWS can and often does last for months after the last drug has left the system.  You are in PAWS the entire time; you&#8217;re just asymptomatic for varying periods.  Stress is the big trigger, but sometimes the symptoms just come on.  Your brain chemistry is getting all mixed up as various portions of your brain improve.  They&#8217;re not all in sequence, and that throws your neurotransmitters off and makes you feel strange.</p>
<p>No, you do not get PAWS while you&#8217;re using.  Those are the effects of the drugs and of acute withdrawal.  PAWS stands for <em>post-acute</em> withdrawal syndrome.  It comes after acute withdrawal, which is the period during and just after the drugs leave your system.  PAWS symptoms are usually more or less the reverse of how the drug made you feel.  Nervousness, anxiety and confusion are the norm for people who used opiates and tranquilizers.  It will go away on its own.  You have no control over it, except for taking care of yourself physically and emotionally.  Worrying about it is like trying to think a broken leg well.  It just ain&#8217;t gonna happen, but if you don&#8217;t take care of yourself, you can certainly slow the healing of the leg &#8212; and the brain.</p>
<p>Yes.  You&#8217;re over-analyzing the heck out of it.  Just be in the moment.  It is what it is.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wesley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I go out very often, almost every day. I never let it get the best of me. I just feel so out of it. From the readings, I thought it only hit you for a few days. It hits me for 2-3 weeks and then I am fine again for the next month or so. I know I am improving. I wake up some days, and remember things as a child that I couldn&#039;t remember on drugs. My memory is improving. Although I have trouble doing math still, and can&#039;t put numbers together well- this was my biggest issue. I worked for the top computer company in the world, and I had to retrieve confirmation numbers via phone when I clocked in for work. I had to replay that sucker over and over again to understand the numbers. This started happening before I hit rock bottom with pills. I couldn&#039;t understand simple numbers. I would look into it too much. Is it usual to have PAWS symptoms before quitting? I would get PAWS if I didn&#039;t get my pills. When I actually did quit, the PAWS increasingly was worse. I can&#039;t wait to be normal again. I finished my Bachelors a few weeks ago, and I have no idea how I did it because it was so difficult to understand or concentrate more than a minute. I know it is improving, but I think I am over analyzing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go out very often, almost every day. I never let it get the best of me. I just feel so out of it. From the readings, I thought it only hit you for a few days. It hits me for 2-3 weeks and then I am fine again for the next month or so. I know I am improving. I wake up some days, and remember things as a child that I couldn&#8217;t remember on drugs. My memory is improving. Although I have trouble doing math still, and can&#8217;t put numbers together well- this was my biggest issue. I worked for the top computer company in the world, and I had to retrieve confirmation numbers via phone when I clocked in for work. I had to replay that sucker over and over again to understand the numbers. This started happening before I hit rock bottom with pills. I couldn&#8217;t understand simple numbers. I would look into it too much. Is it usual to have PAWS symptoms before quitting? I would get PAWS if I didn&#8217;t get my pills. When I actually did quit, the PAWS increasingly was worse. I can&#8217;t wait to be normal again. I finished my Bachelors a few weeks ago, and I have no idea how I did it because it was so difficult to understand or concentrate more than a minute. I know it is improving, but I think I am over analyzing it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 00:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Wes,

I don&#039;t want to seem simplistic here, but the answer is simple.  You&#039;ve been stressed.  PAWS is aggravated by stress.  In your case, where anxiety is also an issue, the stress is greater.  End of story.

Entertain yourself.  Read a book, have some fun, take a walk, talk to someone, go to a movie (not at home, go out, and go with someone else).  The PAWS will go away, but worrying about it will only make things worse.

Hang in there,

Bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wes,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to seem simplistic here, but the answer is simple.  You&#8217;ve been stressed.  PAWS is aggravated by stress.  In your case, where anxiety is also an issue, the stress is greater.  End of story.</p>
<p>Entertain yourself.  Read a book, have some fun, take a walk, talk to someone, go to a movie (not at home, go out, and go with someone else).  The PAWS will go away, but worrying about it will only make things worse.</p>
<p>Hang in there,</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on PAWS by wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wesley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 23:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey bill,
I had an epidural nerve block with cortisone steroid. My first injection i felt a little anxiety after, and a month later, i recieved a second injection into my lower lumbar. After the second one, my paws have been terrible for two weeks now... like really bad.. i been clean from everything else since october. Any reasoning? I wish it would all go away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bill,<br />
I had an epidural nerve block with cortisone steroid. My first injection i felt a little anxiety after, and a month later, i recieved a second injection into my lower lumbar. After the second one, my paws have been terrible for two weeks now&#8230; like really bad.. i been clean from everything else since october. Any reasoning? I wish it would all go away.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Early sobriety - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 17:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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